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Haven't read Mr. Saucer's book but I can tell you that the language called Tarish is not something I've encountered in the AngloRomani community. Various articles in Wikipedia and elswhere describe the Tarish people and language as being some sub-set of AngloRomani people and dialect. Speaking only as an AngloRomani person and not as an academic, I can tell you that this is not the case. We are Romanies, Gypsies, or Romanichals, and our language is Romani or Pogadi Jib. If I'm wrong, then tell the next Tarish you meet to haul up next to me at the fire some night and have a chat in Pogadi Jib and we'll see.



  • It's a fallacy to assume that "gypsy" always means "Romani." Let me rephrase the above using other cultures to illustrate this: I am a German person. I don't believe in the existance of Spanish people or this so-called Spanish language. None of the other Germans I've talked with discuss Spanish things, therefore it's not real. The only way to prove that Spanish people or a Spanish language exists is for one of them to haul up next to me at the fire some night and have a chat in German and we'll see. 01:56, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Many people in Spain don't believe either in the existence of a Spanish people :) --Error 19:52, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Even if the Tarish Tinkers exist, the chance that they're descended from Tartessians in any meaningful sense is near-nil; anyone know more? - Mustafaa 00:43, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Every culture has a mythology. I googed on the subject of Tarshish, antichrist, Spanish Armada. There were hundreds of hits. There is a belief that the destruction of the Spanish Armanda (1588) was found in the bible because Psalm 48:7 says that a great east wind destroys the tarshish armada. The tarish tribe, for a lack of a better word, goes back in England to around 1534 (according Bishop Saucer's history book.) The gypsies had arroved in England only a few years earlier. The destruction of the Spanish Armada must have strenthen their belief. I have also found many webpages which claim that the Tarshish will confront the antichrist. Saucer's book speaks of a priest named Mark Stone who joined up with these people. It is my opnion that Father Stone had used his knowledge of the biblical prophecies to create some sort of cult with these people. There is a precedent for this at that time. Professor MacAlister, reports in his book (the Secret Languages of Ireland) that English monks had joined with nomadics people after the disolution of the English monestaries by Henry VIII. Macalister reports that the monks created special languages for them. Given all this, I see no reason not to believe that they exist. - Frederick Boca 01:10, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Tarshish via Atlantis[edit]

Atlantis was not some gigantic island inhabited by a race of enlighten beings. It was the Tartessian enpire whose capitol was Tartessos. The fall of the Tartessian Empire and the fate of its inhabitants have becoame mythic. Many people outside the Tarish community believe that the Gyspies are the descendants of Tarshish who fled Southern Spain.

I suppose your source is the Oera Linda Book. sigh. This is an encyclopaedia, not a stage for fairy tales. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 11:30, 7 March 2007 (UTC).

Lay liturgical resources[edit]

The 1.Lay Liturgical Resources reference is a typo. Compare the URL with the text. --Error 02:32, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)